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Oh me omega |
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(12:06 23/4/2001)
ams (18:46 23/4/2001)
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monkeyson |
Message #662, posted at 12:06, 23/4/2001 |
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Hmmmm. AU's Wakefield guide says that Microdigital will have Omega on display and on sale. I'd imagine they'll be more than willing to take orders, but you won't be able to walk away with one in your arms... The advert in AU is interesting. Apart from the X-Scale upgrade, it also mentions Pentium and Floating Point Processers (sic). This sounds interesting. So a PC card is likely then? Is this what they meant when they said they planned for the Linux market do you think? It's also nice of them to show in large red print how many Omegas they've actually managed to make...
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johnstlr |
Message #664, posted at 17:41, 23/4/2001, in reply to message #663 |
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Evolution is still in the works although according to their website it's a long term project. The impression I got when I spoke to them at Epsom was that they'd gone back to the drawing board, required a hardware independent version of RISC OS and that it ultimately depended on them selling enough RiscStations and Laptops. Personally I reckon funding and RISC OS are the big stumbling blocks. As far as the hardware goes I reckon Simtec will be behind it and I have every faith in their ability to deliver on that front. |
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Message #665, posted at 18:46, 23/4/2001, in reply to message #662 |
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Hmmmm.AU's Wakefield guide says that Microdigital will have Omega on display and on sale. I'd imagine they'll be more than willing to take orders, but you won't be able to walk away with one in your arms... Don't worry, I suspect that'll still be true in Epson in October 2001 !! |
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Message #667, posted at 19:14, 23/4/2001, in reply to message #664 |
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The impression I got when I spoke to them at Epsom was that they'd gone back to the drawing board, required a hardware independent version of RISC OS Couldn't they team up with Microdigital and borrow their fantabulous imaginary chips? If Castle and Millipede also joined in, maybe they'd have a big enough order for the chip manufacturers to bother making them! |
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Message #669, posted at 21:27, 24/4/2001, in reply to message #668 |
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If the Omega is able to switch processors, between SA and Xscale, as the modes are needed,
would it be possible to do something similar with a 7500 and an XScale, (eg on a laptop),
if it were possible, it would allow a relatively cheap design to run 32 bit apps fast (eg if 32bit neutral mp3 player
were written...), but still allow existing apps to run albeit at slower speeds. |
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monkeyson |
Message #670, posted at 14:29, 25/4/2001, in reply to message #669 |
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Could you use a 7500FP as a floating point coprocessor for an SA? |
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Message #671, posted at 20:34, 26/4/2001, in reply to message #670 |
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Could you use a 7500FP as a floating point coprocessor for an SA? It would depend, after all some SA FP instructions are FASTER than the 7500FP ? I think I recall someone measuring FP on the SA as being about twice as fast (on average) as the FPA in the 7500. (Bear in mind the 7500 is only clocked at under 1/4 that of the SA and the SA has a more efficient cache - in addition some FP functionality is still emulated EVEN when a hardware co-pro is present). I suppose if the mix of instructions were right a 7500FP might be the way to go, but why not put an ARM9 on a card and have the SA use it (some variants of ARM9 have quite decent FP and there's always ARM10 in the wings !!!). Whether the effort is all worthwhile is determined by whether the time taken to have the 7500/ARM9 exchange FP data with the SA takes longer than the SA using the old software FPE to do the work instead. I do go along with the general desire for better FP, hopefully ARM 10 will address that in due course. There's an interesting article in Acorn User (current issue) about MP3 and the author shows how judicious use of FIXED point arithmetic can give a considerable boost in performance - FP is NOT always the best choice after all (though it has its uses !) |
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Message #674, posted at 20:00, 1/5/2001, in reply to message #663 |
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also what ever happened to RiscStation's Evolution???
Is it still in the works?, and are they just keeping quiet to avoid another Omega saga??There is some detales on there web site about the Evoulution. |
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Message #675, posted at 21:16, 1/5/2001, in reply to message #674 |
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also what ever happened to RiscStation's Evolution???
Is it still in the works?, and are they just keeping quiet to avoid another Omega saga??
There is some detales on there web site about the Evoulution.
There *are* in fact very few details on their web site, and thos that are have unfortunately not changed for years (1999) I wish they'd get on with it though. My Riscstation is nearly 18 months old now! John |
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monkeyson |
Message #677, posted at 08:50, 2/5/2001, in reply to message #676 |
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im wondering how much they're going to change before they do release it, as its quite a bit behind the Omega. Then again, it may be very much cheaper than the Omega. |
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john |
Message #678, posted at 12:37, 5/5/2001, in reply to message #676 |
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LOL! And until recently it said "More details Oct 2000"!
It said that since about August or probably befor ethen. If it changes again I won't be surprixsed |
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ams |
Message #673, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #672 |
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There's an interesting article in Acorn User Are you sure?
They can be from time to time  |
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Message #672, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #671 |
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There's an interesting article in Acorn User
Are you sure? judicious use of FIXED point arithmetic can give a considerable boost in performance - FP is NOT always the best choice after all (though it has its uses !) I can see your point!  |
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Message #668, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #663 |
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it looks to be saying that youre gonna only be able to use one out of the 3 extras (Xscale, PC Card?, FP) iirc there are 3 slots for such goodies.
wonder if they'll conflict?  |
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Message #676, posted by ToiletDuck at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #675 |
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according to their website Riscstation are announcing something about the Evolution October this year (perhaps at the RiscOS show?),
so 'me thinks they're doing things to it, but they just want to avoid doing an "Omega" 
If you check their specs for it on the website, im wondering how much they're going to change before they do release it, as its quite a bit behind the Omega. |
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Message #666, posted by ToiletDuck at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #665 |
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Don't worry, I suspect that'll still be true in Epson in October 2001 !!
ahhh its Bracknell this year |
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Message #663, posted by ToiletDuck at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #662 |
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lol,
hmm the FP & Pentium look interesting, but it looks to be saying that youre gonna only be able to use one out of the 3 extras (Xscale, PC Card?, FP)
It'll be interesting to see what progress has been made with RiscStation's Laptop, as according to CTA an updated specification (and price ) is going to be announced, also what ever happened to RiscStation's Evolution???
Is it still in the works?, and are they just keeping quiet to avoid another Omega saga?? |
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