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The Icon Bar: General: Competition for ARM
 
  Competition for ARM
  (22:08 21/11/2000)
  Gulli (10:40 23/11/2000)
  patbean (23:57 24/11/2000)
    ams (19:41 26/11/2000)
 
ams Message #1888, posted at 22:08, 21/11/2000
Unregistered user A new start up in the US picoturbo have launched an ARM4T compatible processor which they hope to license (under better terms than ARM). Needless to say it may go to litigation. As an interesting aside the picoturbo pt120 manages 400-500MHz.

Picoturbos url is predictably www.picoturbo.com

I suppose its a measure of ARM's success that someone is trying to copy them, I suspect this story could run and run !

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Gulli Message #1889, posted at 10:40, 23/11/2000, in reply to message #1888
Unregistered user Maybe ARM Ltd. and Intel will get into a bidding war for this chip? Or AMD even?
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patbean Message #1890, posted at 23:57, 24/11/2000, in reply to message #1888
Unregistered user As an ARN Share holder I hope that they put a stop to this type of thing ASAP. :-(

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ams Message #1891, posted at 19:41, 26/11/2000, in reply to message #1890
Unregistered user I am sure they will try.

The real issue is this, can you copyright an instruction set ? I think not.

My read on the situation is that ARM will challenge some architectural features of the pt120, the instruction set is a lost cause. Consider for example the Transmeta Crusoe, its a VLIW chip that is produced by an organisation that is not Intel yet runs Intel x86 code (I am sure Intel would sue if they could).

ARM may challenge the use of register "shadowing" (where registers are swapped on mode changes), trouble is even this technique to some extent is already used in other chips.

I think if ARM simply litigate they may/may not succeed and in the meantime they advertise (loudly) that there is a second source of ARM compliant cores (Picoturbo probably subscribe to the view that no publicity is bad publicity).

IMHO ARMs best approach is to keep updating their cores, make them as fast, flexible and efficient as possible. They have a headstart over picoturbo, if they don't get too lazy (or greedy) they have nothing to worry about. They can also emphasise the range of support from respected licensees (can picoturbo ?)

Perhaps ARM should start looking at uprating their cores towards the HIGH END performance spectrum so that they (unlike Pt) can offer a full gamut of processing power from the ultra low end ARM710 to devices beyond the current ARM10 or xScale. That way they can keep their customers and attract new ones (that is using the carrot and not just the stick as it were).

The days when ARM can simply sit on their laurels and design processors for washing machines are gone - and not before time.

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