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The Icon Bar: General: What can I do with Pheobe??
 
  What can I do with Pheobe??
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Steve Message #1729, posted at 15:20, 24/9/2000, in reply to message #1728
Unregistered user Hmm, seems very tempting - although I'm still not 100% sure that the Phoebe case will take an NLX board without modifications (i.e. I have no idea if Acorn fiddled with the fixings...)

Thanks for the info - I hadn't had any luck finding any manufacturers 'til now.

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Steve Message #1733, posted at 19:54, 24/9/2000, in reply to message #1731
Unregistered user Apparently a standard AT power supply will fit in the case (CTA will sell them too!).

I've asked on the comp.sys.acorn.hardware if anyone knows whether the case is standard or not, so I'll keep checking.

Cheers,

Stephen

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[Steve] Message #1734, posted at 21:24, 24/9/2000, in reply to message #1733
Unregistered user I'm not sure how easy it is to get an NLX board with an AT psu connector on it, or if there are convertors.
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[Steve] Message #1736, posted at 17:26, 27/9/2000, in reply to message #1735
Unregistered user Again this is strangely on topic but does anyone know where to get riser cards for these freaky motherboards???
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Steve Message #1737, posted at 10:59, 2/10/2000, in reply to message #1736
Unregistered user I'm not sure, - don't they tend to be supplied with them?

On another - related - topic, does anyone know of anywhere that sells slot-loading CDROM drives? (I've found a slot loading DVD drive, but I'm not going to shell out 108ukp for something that I'm not going to use)

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[Steve] Message #1738, posted at 17:20, 2/10/2000, in reply to message #1737
Unregistered user Pioneer are the manufacturer you need to be searching for.
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[Steve] Message #1739, posted at 18:05, 2/10/2000, in reply to message #1738
Unregistered user .....but I cant find they're cd drives so you may have to try second hand - Micromart??
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[Steve] Message #1740, posted at 20:58, 12/10/2000, in reply to message #1739
Unregistered user Anybody done anything with her then? I can confirm that my ATX PSU fits.
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[Steve] Message #1742, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1741
Unregistered user I know how you feel - I just upgraded my PC unhappy with a new case and processor - its only through me being old enough to get a decent amount of cash per month that Im able to keep up! Ridiculous!

Mind you I want to be able to run Max Payne and Halo (and Sibelius twice as fast, natch cool).

Did take me a few days to get it running without problems though - Acorns have always worked the moment you press the button - a huge plus for people who don't want to mess with things. Windows breaks itself far too easily!

But Half Life doesn't have an Acorn Native version.

*sigh*

Anyway, back to Phoebe - it's not going to be cheap to get a machine inside her!! These NLX motherboards are scarce and expensive - so unfair!!

Ahhh well, there always Christmas and I can rob money from relatives then I'm sure!

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[Steve] Message #1725, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002
Unregistered user Well she's sitting in my room now looking gorgeous wink but what can I do with her 'cept stare!? Any ideas??

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Steve Message #1741, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1740
Unregistered user Not yet, - mainly due to lack of funds (and a nasty credit card bill). Hopefully I'll get round to doing something before Christmas. Although with the RISC OS 2000 show coming up soon, I'll probably be even more broke... indiff
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I don't have tourettes you're just a cun Message #1735, posted by [mentat] at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1725
[mentat]Fear is the mind-killer
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In response to the original post question:

Try and flog the case design to any PC manufacturer and hope all future PCs go the way of "Acorn".

Hmm, OK, silly post, but this forum was getting over-steved wink and I wanted to make a post to test my recently edited user profile (...cheers Tim - I presume)

R.O.R. !

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[Steve] Message #1732, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1731
Unregistered user Sorry for spamming your lovely board smile but this is a very good URL too.

http://www.teleport.com/~ffsupprt/

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[Steve] Message #1731, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1730
Unregistered user There's also three boards from Asus but they are very difficult to actually BUY! frown

http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/nlx.htm

....is the specification from Intel, they may have dimensions on there somewhere and everything looks pretty similar to me, but as you say it would be just like Acorn to change something very very slightly. The case is interesting enough, today I realised that the bottom part was hinged and you can slide the motherboard in and out on the runners. What I want to know is whether there is enough space for the riser card below the PSU, and whether the PSU bay is big enough for an ATX one, as half the NLX boards I found have ATX connectors. It IS, even with all these problems, a fantastic case, just a shame an Acorn can't be put in too easily. A Linux box for my Uni course next year it will have to be!! (If you go to Nottingham, you might see me there, with my 75cm green Juno case and bright yellow Pheobe as well!)

Is there anyone on here that knows whether Pheobe is a 100% genuine NLX form factor case, or is it going to be a rather attractive door stop??!?

I for one am not really going to shell out £120 odd for a motherboard that *might* not fit, and I don't know enough about electronics to modify it in any way.... in fact I'd be scared.

What form factor (if any) is the Imago from Millipede???

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Steve Message #1730, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1727
Unregistered user Nah, - the more Steves the better (we could then go on to take over the world... wink )

Actually, I haven't been as frequent a poster here as I'd like, - mainly due to work/pub/being-too-lazy-to-reply. I intend to change that (probably by doing no work :-p)

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[Steve] Message #1728, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1727
Unregistered user Gigabyte Motherboards aer good quality and I found a few from them, a celeron one would be your best bet as there are no PIII or Slot/SocketA ones and you can put PIIs in them with the addition of an adapter, as well as being able to go all the way up to a celeron 800 before you have to overclock to get faster. Insight.com/uk does the Gigabyte board, but it's £140ish frown. But you would get to see Pheobe alive, albeit running Linux not Risc OS frown

Oh, and that board comes with onboard sound too and graphics, not sure about an AGP slot though...

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[Steve] Message #1727, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1726
Unregistered user Sorry that I've got too similar a forum name to you, I tried this one first 'cos I use it for IRC and stuff and didn't think! Oh well, shouldn't be too confusing :D

I can reregister if you want tho, haven't got my obligatory 1000 posts just yet :E

And cheers for the advice about form factor for a PC, I couldn't think what I would need as the PCI slots are vertical frown, and although I'd love an acorn in there putting a RiscPC in would be a waste, and I don't know whether the Imago would fit properly...

Steve smile

*You really need to get more smileys on here smile*

[Edited by 242 at 12:03, 24/9/2000]

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Steve Message #1726, posted at 13:58, 15/6/2002, in reply to message #1725
Unregistered user I was about to post something similar myself - then I saw your post, and wonder for a moment if I already had smile
There are several different things you could do - depending on the amount of time/money/technical expertise you've got:

1) Move an existing RiscPC motherboard and
bits into the Phoebe case. This apparently
requires some work on the power supply, as
it does not fit properly.

2) Build an Intel/AMD machine into the case.
This would ideally need an NLX motherboard
and as yet, I've been unable to find anyone
that sells them (I've found several
companies that make them though).

3) Put it on a shelf, and look at it wink

I'm going with (2) for the moment, if I can find a board for the thing, - hopefully I'll build a Linux server.

HTH

Stephen

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